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Good articleLicancabur has been listed as one of the Geography and places good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
January 10, 2017Good article nomineeListed
March 26, 2024Good article reassessmentKept
Current status: Good article

GA Reassessment

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Result: Per Kusma, no reason to delist; GAR is not peer review. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:31, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just did a moderate expansion/rewrite on the article in order to prepare it for FAC, which thus ended up quite distinct from the older version. I'd like to have someone check if it still meets the GA criteria. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:15, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange" gadget in your preferences will show you numerous links which need to be specified. I would suggest having a look at links more broadly: e.g. he Inka/Inca (the former spelling is used more often in article, but the latter seems to be preferred generally on-wiki) are mentioned in the first section but are not mentioned until the archaeology section. You have some citation issues: #1 is not defined, while Ceruti 2012 requires a journal name.
More relevant to the GA criteria: adherence to WP:LEAD appears to be spotty—quite a lot of the article is not adequately summarized by the lead. You may also take a look towards copyediting, perhaps through WP:GOCE: sentences such as "Politically, it is located in the Antofagasta Region of Chile and the Potosí Department of Bolivia; the Treaty of Valparaiso establishes the border between Bolivia and Chile as passing over the mountain" could be trimmed of duplication, while "The slopes of the mountain are notably unstable; anecdotally, the noise can be heard all around the mountain" is a slight non-sequitur, as the connection between the instability and noise has not been directly made (and indeed, being mentioned only in Rudolph 1955, could it really be described as "notable"?)
However, these are minor issues which I know well arise after a complete rewrite; I have no doubt that the article meets the GA criteria. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:09, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: Took care of some issues. In my experience, GOCE is not really the right place for pre-FAC copyedits; I think I'll ask @SandyGeorgia and Hog Farm:, when they have time. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:54, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just a few general comments:

Try to avoid "5 – −25 °C (41 – −13 °F), decreasing to −25 – −40 °C (−13 – −40 °F)", it is quite unpleasant to look at and MOS:RANGE recommends not to do it.
"The summit at 5,916 metres (19,409 ft) elevation[26][c] is capped by a summit crater is 500 metres (1,600 ft)[19]-400 metres (1,300 ft) wide summit crater that lacks large flat areas" apart from the obvious editing debris grammar problem, perhaps better to untangle this into several sentences ("The elevation of the summit is 5916 metres. It is capped by summit crater with a diameter of 400–500 metres and does not have any large flat areas").
Images: perhaps try to improve captions? Licancabur Lake is the black blob in the centre? The Laguna Verde photo is amazing, perhaps tell us in the caption that this is at 4000+m elevation?
Fauna: list of animals looks a bit random; are any of these particularly important / rare / only occurring at the mountain?
Are the Inka people you link to different from the Inca?
What does "the mountains cover each other during the equinoxes" mean?

Overall it looks like it could do with some copyediting and some work on the lead, but no reason to delist. —Kusma (talk) 21:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

On W.E.Rudolph

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Linking this study as it illustrates one reason why I think they are a RS for cultural things. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-FAC review

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More to come. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • "The Chaxas lava dome was active during the Pliocene when it formed ignimbrites now buried under Licancabur." and "At the volcano, the basement is covered by ignimbrites[32] from the Chaxas, La Pacana[19] and Purico volcanoes". Given the second mention, presumably we can cut the first sentence?
    Yes, and done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • What does "Crystals often form aggregates" refer to?
    A banal detail I just removed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The magma deposits were stored in a chambers where crystals formed": presumably should be "chamber", but I don't follow what this is telling me. If I recall correctly from reading your previous FACs, magma is always in a magma chamber of some kind, and you've already mentioned that crystals have formed, so what do we learn from this?
    Rewrote this. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Per MOS:RANGE, don't use en dash ranges with "from". I would avoid the en dash ranges with negative temperatures anyway as they are visually confusing.
    Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The Atacama Desert is one of the driest on Earth. The arid climate is due to subsidence of air within the South Pacific Anticyclone, which extends to the Andes. Owing to the dry climate, snow cover on Licancabur is ephemeral and there are no glaciers." I don't think we need to explain the aridity of the Atacama in this article. Suggest "The Atacama Desert is one of the driest on Earth, and as a result, snow cover on Licancabur is ephemeral and there are no glaciers."
    Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Periglacial phenomena occur on Licancabur": can we say what these phenomena are?
    Explained a bit. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The region likely has Earth's highest insolation rate": what region, exactly? Northern Chile, the area around the volcano, somewhere in between?
    The Atacama and adjacent Andes. It's hard to define because there are only spotty measurements. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Can we give the reader a better idea of what is being referred to? The current wording leaves it open. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:44, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Activity at Licancabur impacted the environment at Laguna Verde, causing changes in water chemistry": vague -- can we be more specific?
    Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The flank lava flows": I don't know what this refers to; this is the first use of "flank".
    Changed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "There are no known historical or Holocene eruptions, and the preservation of Inca ruins in the summit implies that it has been inactive for 600–1000 years. However, the elevated temperatures in the crater imply that the volcano still has heat, while lava flows overran 13,240 ± 100 years old shorelines at Laguna Verde." If the flank lava flows mentioned are the same thing as the lava flows overrunning the lake's shoreline, then suggest "There are no known historical or Holocene eruptions; the most recent flows are thought to be lava which overran the 13,240 ± 100 years old shorelines at Laguna Verde. The preservation of Inca ruins in the summit implies that it has been inactive for 600–1000 years. However, the elevated temperatures in the crater imply that the volcano is still generating [or "producing", or "contains"] heat."
    Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Can we now cut "The lava flows on the slopes are the most recent activity" as it's repeated (with more specifics) in the next sentence? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:11, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, I recast this a bit because I am not sure that these are actually the most recent flows (as opposed to "the only dated ones") Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:56, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "any pyroclastic fallout would be of limited extent": Not really accurate, surely? It would cause limited damage but might not be of limited extent.
    Sometimes pyroclastic fallout is limited to the immediate surroundings of the volcano. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, but here we say "Given the volcano is remote from inhabited areas, any pyroclastic fallout would be of limited extent" which implies that the limited extent would be because of the remoteness, which makes no sense. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:16, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, I get it now. Rewritten. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:56, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A stone semicircle surrounding an upright stone has been compared to an altar, ushnu." Suggest "A stone semicircle surrounding an upright stone has been compared to an Incan altar known as an ushnu".
    Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Notably, no human sacrifices (capacocha) are associated with Licancabur": why "notably"? And given that there is only archaeological evidence and no written records, how can this be known?
    Mummies found on mountaintops are pretty common in Inca locales, see Ampato, Misti, Llullaillaco, Quevar etc. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Both Inca and local pottery styles": what does "local" refer to?
    The Atacama region. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think what's bothering me here is that I suspect that the local pottery styles are not from the same period as the Inca pottery, but this doesn't say that. I.e. I suspect we could say something like "Inca pottery and post-Inca styles from the local Atacameno people", but I don't know what the source will support. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sauce says "In addition to classical Inca pottery, we observed many local pottery styles on the surface at the tambo (Barón and Reinhard 1981)" and isn't available online. I'll put a request to WP:RX but experience says nobody will have access. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:44, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    OK. I don't think you need this for FAC. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The Inca road passed at the foot of the volcano, making the site easily accessible" I assume this means it would have been accessible for the Incas, rather than saying it's accessible now. If so, I suggest moving this sentence up above the "has been interpreted as" sentence, so that we have the road mentioned in consecutive sentences.
    Which "interpreted as"? Rewrote the text. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The male Licancabur was married to female Quimal in the Cordillera Domeyko". Assuming I understand the intended meaning, how about "Licancabur and Quimal, another mountain in the Cordillera Domeyko, were considered to be married; Licancabur was the male and Quimal the female partner."
    Done, but note that Licancabur is not in the Domeyko Cordillera. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is the 1953 Calama earthquake worth a redlink?
    Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Whether there are legends of Inca treasury associated with Licancabur is unclear." I don't follow this -- you've just related a legend of Inca treasury.
    Removed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's everything for a first pass. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Once the last two points are addressed I think this is ready to nominate; I would certainly support at FAC. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]